tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773814479902729178.post8741196002398955041..comments2023-06-30T07:27:29.362-07:00Comments on can't we just get along ?: BlasphemyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773814479902729178.post-65999941049424402872011-04-19T19:23:13.462-07:002011-04-19T19:23:13.462-07:00Funny you should ask.There will be a part II to th...Funny you should ask.There will be a part II to this post. Thanks for reading to you , too.swiggco worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676250248559678763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773814479902729178.post-29749243111162847002011-04-19T17:41:11.660-07:002011-04-19T17:41:11.660-07:00paul -
you just returned from san diego, so i...paul - <br /><br />you just returned from san diego, so i'll assume some of the text reflects the mood - or your mood - from the show. all this, "artisan builders tend to look down on the full-timers..." stuff you are writing about, how does it manifest itself? do these guys actually have words with each other? is there some us/them thing going on? atmo it's somewhat laughable that the former would be in any position to judge the latter. i don't condone judging at all, but in this passion play cum drug store novel screenplay you seem to be describing, it's clear that the career guy would wanna telling the, er - artisan, to take his fleur-de-lis-a-thon and shove it. <br /><br />so lettuce know how this works. who says what to whom atmo? and when it's said, do the whoms, in turn, go nihilistic on the asses of the whos?<br /><br />hey - thanks for reading.e-RICHIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004654079480170475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773814479902729178.post-78490586452671285442011-04-17T08:29:36.099-07:002011-04-17T08:29:36.099-07:00Maybe frame building can drive a man to drink........Maybe frame building can drive a man to drink.....to be truthful , I imagine that the beer on Sean's bench was a happy-hour Friday after work thing. I can't picture a guy as good as Sean is at what he does drinking while building frames. The beer at the show ? If you have ever worked a trade show of any kind you would know what a drag it can be. I'm sure the beer was the much needed thing to take the edge off.swiggco worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676250248559678763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773814479902729178.post-2382324620786619142011-04-17T04:53:50.633-07:002011-04-17T04:53:50.633-07:00Well said.
During this year's NAHBS in Austin...Well said.<br /><br />During this year's NAHBS in Austin, I posted the question on one of the bike forums regarding a similar issue: It was something like; what do you do with the over-the-top frame you built for the show? Is it really going to sell at the price commensurate with the labor that went into the frame? Or does it just hang on a hook until the price is reduced enough to sell? This kind of construction can't support itself year after year. Wouldn't it be better to display an affordable production model that would likely draw enough interest AND SELL DURING THE SHOW by virtue of eliminating any lead times, and at the same time cover the show's costs? Carl Strong and Dave Kirk do just that and every year they offer their show frames for sale on the bike forums. They get snatched up quickly.<br /><br />As a side note, I noticed the photo accompanying your blog entry shows Sean Walling in his booth-with a beer. This is not to pick on Sean, but it did spark my memory to something I noticed recently:<br /><br />I follow another builder's RSS feed and Flickr page. On a recent entry he posted photos of a new frame in his shop that he was building. In the background, on a workbench, was a bottle of beer. My reaction was; a hobby builder can get away with that but if you're in the business of selling frames/taking money from customers to build their frames, and working on them while drinking, it's not good. In addition to the safety issue of working around machinery while buzzed, the concept of a framebuilder constructing MY frame while drinking doesn't exactly leave me with a feeling of confidence about their work.<br /><br />I mentioned this to the builder and he wisely removed the photos.<br /><br />No sooner than a day later, I noticed a photo of another builder with an entire milk crate of beer bottles in the foreground. While the photo's appearance and setting left me with a slightly different impression on whether they were drinking on the job, it nevertheless made me question the credibility of the builder.<br /><br />Of course, drinking a beer at a bike show might be considered okay, depending on the consumer's viewpoint, but it's the consumer that pays the bills...<br /><br />P.S. I love Sean's no-nonsense viewpoint on frames (a tool to be used rather than the works of art you mention in your blog); his headbadge is the coolest too-next to a lobster, of course!Peter W. Polackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01970552290444681455noreply@blogger.com